Gender Recognition, Marriage Solemnisation and the Equality Bill
In case you missed it, the Government yesterday accepted an amendment that protects clergy from being sued for discrimination for refusing to marry a couple if they believe one of the spouses has had a gender transition. The text of the debate on these amendments is here, but this is the key section from the Government minister.
Baroness Thornton (Baronesses in Waiting, HM Household; Labour)
I will speak to both Amendment 58A and Amendment 58B, but before I do, may I say to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, that our job in this House is to test Bills, to test whether they work and to seek clarification of them, and therefore all our discussions are going to be about, does this work, does it do what it says it is going to do, do we think it will work and, occasionally, have we forgotten to put something in that might make it clearer? It is not a question of forgetting, actually; it is probably a question of a test that was done before it even reached the Floor of the House, where we tested it and found that, perhaps, it did not do quite what we intended.
Amendment 58A seeks to make clear that a clergyman of the Church of England, or a clerk in holy orders of the Church in Wales, will not be subject to a claim for discrimination on the grounds of gender reassignment when acting in accordance with Section 5B of the Marriage Act 1949. Section 5B allows a clergyman or clerk of the established church to refuse to solemnise a marriage if he or she reasonably believes one of the couple to have gained their legal gender under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. The 2004 Act was passed to provide transsexual people with legal recognition in their acquired gender. Under that Act, legal recognition of a person’s new gender follows from the issue of a full gender recognition certificate by the gender recognition panel. Legal recognition of the new gender has the effect that, for example, a male-to-female transsexual person is recognised for all purposes as a woman in English law. On the issue of a full gender recognition certificate, a person is entitled to a new birth certificate reflecting the acquired gender and is able to marry someone of the opposite gender to his or her acquired gender.
The 2004 Act therefore amended the Marriage Act 1949 to provide clergy of the Church of England and the Church in Wales, who are under an obligation to solemnise the marriages of parishioners, with a clause that releases them from this obligation if they feel unable to solemnise the marriage of a person recognised in the acquired gender. The rationale of the relevant provision, Section 5B, is that a minister should not be obliged by law to act against their personal religious conviction on this matter. This provision is only necessary for clergy of the Church of England and the Church in Wales because they alone among denominations have a legal obligation to solemnise the marriages of their parishioners. This amendment seeks to make it clear that a person acting in accordance with Section 5B will not be liable to a claim for discrimination on the grounds of gender reassignment.
Although the Bill is not intended to cover this situation, we do agree that as a result of the Bill’s broader protections for people who are undergoing or have undergone gender reassignment, there is a risk of claims being brought unless an exception such as this is put in place. Consequently, we are happy to accept the right reverend Prelate’s amendment.
For Amendment 58B, a similar rationale applies. Although there is no legal obligation on religions or denominations other than the established church to solemnise marriages, those who solemnise marriages in those religions may also have personal religious concerns about conducting marriages involving people who have undergone gender reassignment. Currently they are able to refuse to solemnise marriages involving such people without any risk of a claim for discrimination. However, as with the established church, the Bill may raise questions as to whether any such refusals might give rise to claims for gender reassignment discrimination. We have always been clear that the Equality Bill’s extension of protection from gender reassignment discrimination should not interfere with the current position whereby people conducting religious marriages are not required to conduct a marriage where they reasonably believe that a person has undergone gender reassignment.
With this in mind, we agree that the position of religions other than the Church of England and the Church in Wales needs to be clarified, in case there was doubt that Part 3 inadvertently alters the position. We are therefore grateful for this amendment. In England and Wales, it will allow those, such as Catholic priests, who consent to the solemnisation of the marriage of a person in a registered building the same facility as clergy of the established church to refuse to marry people who have undergone gender reassignment without facing a claim for discrimination, as described by my noble friend Lady Gould. In Scotland, it will allow what it refers to as “approved celebrants” to decline to solemnise a marriage for the same reason. It defines approved celebrants by reference to the Scottish legislation: the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1977.
One question still remains – will it be illegal to ask in the first place whether either proposed spouse has had a gender reassignment? And what happens if you don’t ask, suspect, refuse and then find out that there has been no gender reassignment?
I know and have a lot of sympathy for people who suffer from gender-dysphoria. It is a misserable condition and from what I’ve seen, gender reassignment doesn’t actually much reduce the feelings of disphoria in many cases… The hoped for release seems to often be a disappointment.
Anti transgender-discrimination law, on the other hand, is may favourite example of how many “liberals” are inconsistent in the way that they argue for Human Rights. Varying their arguments to suit their desire outcomes. Transgender people must be treated as their assigned gender by everyone else, not stopped from using public loos and changing rooms, allowed to marry someone with the same birth sex, and not discriminated against by religious organisations.. except that an individual minister may, if (s)he suspects someone is transgendered, decline to perform the marriage ceremony. EXCEPT! there is an exception for sports!!!
A transgendered (ex-)man can userp women’s privacy in a “women only” sauna, can marry a man without bothering to tell him, and can expect everyone to treat him as a woman… except when it comes to sports!!
Since when has there been a Human Right to Freedom of Sport!!! “It’s just a game”.
Obviously, I just don’t understand.. Kicking a football round a field, hitting a tennis ball over a net, or running fast, all involve rights much more important than personal privacy, religious conscience, or the right to know who you are getting married to!